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02/01/2022 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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01:35:14 PM Start
01:35:44 PM SB168
01:52:37 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 168 DONATIONS/GIFTS FOR DOT&PF SIGNAGE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 168 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
           SB 168-DONATIONS/GIFTS FOR DOT&PF SIGNAGE                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:35:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 168                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  program receipts;  and  relating  to  the                                                               
acceptance of  gifts, donations,  and grants  for the  purpose of                                                               
providing signage for assets under  the control of the Department                                                               
of Transportation and Public Facilities."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS, speaking as sponsor,  explained that the legislature                                                               
honors  people  through commemorative  naming,  but  it has  been                                                               
problematic  to fund  the signage.  SB  168 would  provide a  new                                                               
avenue for  funding by allowing the  Department of Transportation                                                               
and Public Facilities  (DOTPF) to collect the funds  from a third                                                               
party for signage costs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:37:34 PM                                                                                                                    
DAWSON   MANN,  Staff,   Senator  Robert   Myers,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,   Juneau,  Alaska,   on  behalf   of  the   sponsor,                                                               
paraphrased the sectional analysis for SB 168, which read:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: AS 37.05.146(c) Page 1, Lines 5-7                                                                               
     This   section  adds   gifts,  donations,   and  grants                                                                    
     received  by  DOT&PF  to   the  definition  of  program                                                                    
     receipts  and non-general  fund program  receipts found                                                                    
     in  the  Fiscal  Procedures   Act  in  accordance  with                                                                    
     section 2 of this bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
Section 2:  AS 44.42.060 Page  1, Lines 8-14, Page  2, Lines                                                                    
1-3.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This  section  adds  that the  department  may  receive                                                                    
     gifts,  donations,  and  grants in  accordance  with  a                                                                    
     memorandum of understanding with  the donor party. This                                                                    
     section also  outlines that the  funds may not  be used                                                                    
     until the necessary funds have  been collected from the                                                                    
     donor.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Legislative  research  examined   similar  states  that                                                                    
     allow for their Departments  of Transportation (DOT) to                                                                    
     receive donations  to aid the cost  of certain signage,                                                                    
     in  ways similar  to those  in SB  168 currently  being                                                                    
     considered by the Alaska Legislature.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANN stated that there is a zero fiscal note.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
ANDY    MILLS,    Legislative   Liaison,    Department    of                                                                    
Transportation  and   Public  Facilities   (DOTPF),  Juneau,                                                                    
Alaska,  stated that  SB  168 would  codify  the process  to                                                                    
allow third parties to pay for signage costs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:40:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE  stated  that sometimes  organizations  or                                                                    
individuals  want to  honor someone  by naming  a bridge  or                                                                    
roadway  after them,  but the  Department of  Transportation                                                                    
and Public Facilities (DOTPF) incurs  the costs for signage.                                                                    
Many  organizations  have  expressed  their  willingness  to                                                                    
donate  funds  for signage.  He  expressed  his interest  in                                                                    
allowing  the  organizations or  individuals  to  do so  but                                                                    
wondered if  the department would  have written the  bill in                                                                    
this manner.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MYERS explained  that  his  direction to  Legislative                                                                    
Legal  Services  was  to  keep  the  language  as  broad  as                                                                    
possible  to  allow  a  nonprofit  or  for-profit  business,                                                                    
fraternal organization,  or another group to  be the conduit                                                                    
for  soliciting or  collecting donations.  The bill  drafter                                                                    
suggested using "agency."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:40:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE referred  to the language on  page 1, lines                                                                    
11-12, which read "... a  memorandum of understanding agreed                                                                    
on  by the  donor and  the  department." He  stated that  an                                                                    
organization might  collect the  funds from its  members and                                                                    
offer  it as  a lump  sum.  He envisioned  that a  community                                                                    
person might  act as a  clearinghouse for the  donations. He                                                                    
wondered about  the timing since the  legislature might pass                                                                    
a commemorative  bill with  a fiscal  note. This  bill would                                                                    
allow  donor participation,  but  the  department could  not                                                                    
start  the  work until  the  department  received the  donor                                                                    
funds. He asked if this would present a problem.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:42:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLS agreed  that SB 168 was crafted to  allow a third-                                                                    
party donor to  cover costs for naming a  bridge or roadway.                                                                    
However,  the  department  would   be  responsible  for  the                                                                    
signage if the donors did  not remit the funds. The language                                                                    
was written  to ensure  that the  collection and  receipt of                                                                    
funds  would trigger  the department's  actions. He  said it                                                                    
seemed logical  for an organization to  collect these funds.                                                                    
The  department often  designates  an  individual within  an                                                                    
organization   to  represent   and  sign   an  MOU   on  the                                                                    
organization's  behalf.  He said  he  did  not believe  this                                                                    
language would bar that from happening.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  referred to page  1, lines 9-10,  which read                                                                    
"a person or  agency." He asked if this  language would need                                                                    
to  say a  "person," "group,"  or use  some other  term that                                                                    
would not be limiting. He  wondered how an "agency" would be                                                                    
defined.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLS responded  that  he did  not  have the  statutory                                                                    
definition   for   "agency."    However,   for   third-party                                                                    
collections, the  department would  interpret "a  person" to                                                                    
mean   a  person   representing  an   organization  who   is                                                                    
collecting funds  on behalf of  an organization  and signing                                                                    
the MOU.  However, the  department would  not be  opposed to                                                                    
the committee further defining it.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:45:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  commented  that typically  a  nonprofit  or                                                                    
other  group  would  like  to  participate  as  a  means  of                                                                    
honoring  a member  of their  group. He  said the  committee                                                                    
could clarify the intent language.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:46:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS explained  that  his  direction to  Legislative                                                                    
Legal  Services  was  to  keep  the  language  as  broad  as                                                                    
possible  to  allow  a  nonprofit  or  for-profit  business,                                                                    
fraternal organization,  or another group to  be the conduit                                                                    
for soliciting  and collecting  donations. The  bill drafter                                                                    
suggested "agency" would accomplish his goal.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SHOWER stated  that the  record would  reflect that                                                                    
was the sponsor's intent.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  acknowledged that it might  be problematic if                                                                    
the sponsor had used "natural  person" but since it says, "a                                                                    
person,"  it would  also include  a  corporate or  nonprofit                                                                    
corporation. He offered his belief  that this would meet the                                                                    
sponsor's intent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:47:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MYERS  opened  public  testimony;  finding  none;  he                                                                    
closed public testimony on SB 168.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS solicited amendments from members.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MICCICHE stated  he did  not have  an amendment  to                                                                    
offer.  Still,  if  he  had   an  amendment,  he  would  add                                                                    
"organization"  and   change  "by   the  donor"   to  "donor                                                                    
representative" or  something similar. He  acknowledged that                                                                    
the committee discussed the bill's  intent on the record. He                                                                    
said  it is  clear that  the  committee intends  a donor  to                                                                    
mean,  for example,  an executive  director  of a  veteran's                                                                    
group  collecting  for  a particular  reason.  He  supported                                                                    
Senator  Kiehl's   interpretation  that  a   "person"  could                                                                    
include an  organization or a  nonprofit. Although  he would                                                                    
have  written it  differently,  members  and the  department                                                                    
agree that this language would suffice.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MYERS solicited a motion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:49:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  moved to  report  SB  168, work  order  32-                                                                    
LS1212\A,  from  committee with  individual  recommendations                                                                    
and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MYERS found no objection, and SB 168 was reported                                                                         
from the Senate Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                              

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 168 Support Document 2.1.22.pdf SFIN 2/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
STRA 2/1/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 168
SB 168 Fiscal Note DOT 2.1.22.pdf STRA 2/1/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 168
SB 168 v. A Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 2/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
STRA 2/1/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 168
SB 168 v. A Legislation.PDF STRA 2/1/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 168
SB 168 v. A Sponsor Statement .pdf SFIN 2/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 3/14/2022 9:00:00 AM
STRA 2/1/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 168